Potions - Growl

precisely, if you got more stamina from it than it cost to make it then you could make infinite potions by consuming them and making more. It could be useful in some situations though like quests, or if you cannot quite make it to town that day.

Basically, the uses are very very rare and the cases where it actually covers the costs are very very limited. That means Stamina Potions are pretty useless.

All the potions are pretty useless, Im sorry but how can you even expect me to continue working on my herb and potion skill at a cost of nothing..infact by the time I reach the highest skill there will never be a way to recuperate what I paid to get there.

There is such a thing as for the glory of the game, but when there isnt any actual value in what we are doing, how long will the glory of the game last?

I think potions and herbs etc, need to be looked at..because right now, to go ahead and get a skill level in this, is quite stupid, costly and ridiculous for its return. Sorry to be so harsh, but I just spent 15 days dedicatedly searching in a forest and come back to find out that if I sell the herbs they wouldnt cover my costs, if I sell my potions they wouldnt cover the costs, if I used my potions..well we just found out how laughable that is.

I wasted a total of 3 to 400 stamina to get 25..awesome
If I sold it, I wasted 2 silver to get not even 15 bronze value.

Not to mention the 15 days I wasted going herb hunting and daily wages I wasted.

I think it's a mistake to think that the Grail World is a 'fair & balanced' world. Just like in real life somethings arn't fair or even just.

Like your cheap potion, it costs tons more then what you get back.

BUT...what is the real value of stamina-potion?

- it's portable stamina, you can carry it with you. All other stamina is lost at the end of the day.

- you can use anytime you want, and when bandits and playerVSplayer combat is introduced you might be willing to drink that 'expensive' potion just to be safe at the end of the day.

- Or on a quest if you almost reached your goal, you might want to drink the potion due to impatience or due to necessity.


Also ... a 100% alchemist combined with 100% herbfinding, will reduce the productioncost. And will allow you to make potions that are truely more valuable.


The biggest mistake the gamemaster (Arogandor) can do is making potions that will end up with a profit. As then you can create an endless loop... something that shouldn't be allowed.



I think stockpiling wealth is one way of playing. But there are tons of other ways to play this game. Oc-Tabin for example he brews a lot of healing potions, but then he gives them away freely at the hospital.

I don't know why, but he does and he will probably get some respect back from the people he helps (and build up his skills).


But I also understand your point of view.

I dont mind working for it, but the disparity or the costs of working for it, I really dont want to get to 100% to find that I'll be a real aged grandmother before I can recuperate my losses. That is my problem and Im sorry that I have it, but when even 100% isnt going to get me anywhere really...what then is the value of anything? Cept to have a mindset, that you have to teach every player that comes here. RL isnt this harsh. Your either a serf and accept you cant make a proffit ever..or your a merchant that is all about the proffit. Im not either, but Ive invested time and value, my personal value and I feel now undervalued and that I will never be valued..ever. Going back to the point that I'll be a rl aged grandmother before I pay off my debts for reaching 100%..if you werent understanding it.

I can understand you. But maybe there isn't a market yet to support your dedicated work to the world of alchemy? I, Nogwa, as blacksmith and miner have to work in other workshops and fields to make ends meet at the end of the month.

But in my spare time or when I have saved up money, I explore the world of RK and other skills.

But if you have a proposal I think Arogandor is always willing to consider, that's how I know him.

*sighs* I know, he will, and Im being all grumpy about it mostly because I do not have the real life time to make sure this life here works better than it does. :/ I've never run a game before or a made a financial balance market myself. I can point out to my eyes a huge problem, but as to fixing it, Ive not the experience.

*Huggles* I know, but put it down to my mood is being grumpy ingame. Plus, there is nothing saying that this game of yours isnt amazing and totally unique, I was frustrated after spending almost 45 days out of town, iron mining and herb gathering and coming home and after all that the excitement of getting my first potion and getting only 25 stamina. Oh my god..lol..

Im good now..promise and back to just messing about.

Umm, if I could ask, where does one obtain "Grail Stamina" potions?