Bread Program
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Bread Program
Baking Breads will cost you 10 stamina,
1 bag of Flour and 2 Wood.
1 flour = 2 wheat.
I'm still waiting for my field harvest to see what the output of wheat is, but the basics of this all would be to produce cheap food for new arrivals (bread donated there so new people can eat for free).
Also, this will tie into other needs and events. Soon I would like to sponsor an expedition to the iron mine, it is pretty far away for us. Also, we would like to begin mapping out the entire realm, and sponsor those who search for the Grail!
I'd like to thank Axel and Jill for their kind and generous donations that help new arrivals. Awesomeness is appreciated!
Now, for starters, would like to know if anyone in our town has a high milling and baking skill, and what fair wages would be to work for the town.
1 bag of Flour and 2 Wood.
1 flour = 2 wheat.
I'm still waiting for my field harvest to see what the output of wheat is, but the basics of this all would be to produce cheap food for new arrivals (bread donated there so new people can eat for free).
Also, this will tie into other needs and events. Soon I would like to sponsor an expedition to the iron mine, it is pretty far away for us. Also, we would like to begin mapping out the entire realm, and sponsor those who search for the Grail!
I'd like to thank Axel and Jill for their kind and generous donations that help new arrivals. Awesomeness is appreciated!
Now, for starters, would like to know if anyone in our town has a high milling and baking skill, and what fair wages would be to work for the town.
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/slightly offtopic
I'd be very interested in mapping out our entire Realm. I'll start working on that a bit already
I'd be very interested in mapping out our entire Realm. I'll start working on that a bit already
Guest- Guest
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Don't worry about mining expeditions I've got the iron bars covered. So don't worry bout that. I'll start sellin em in about a week when I come back to town.
As for the map, I have everything that does anything in my new map in the FAQ, except the magical orb which does nothing yet.
As for the map, I have everything that does anything in my new map in the FAQ, except the magical orb which does nothing yet.
Axel Ackland- Seeker
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Awesome to hear about the iron bars, we'll need em for sure!
Marche, it would be great to map it all out, let me know how ya make out
Marche, it would be great to map it all out, let me know how ya make out
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awesome! watch out for them bears!
we can now hire mercenaries so that will help out im sure
we can now hire mercenaries so that will help out im sure
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Yeah The Grail Guard is great. The Brute will probably be more of an exception with his high hiring cost
Guest- Guest
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HUffs.
First of all as a newbie, It seems I cannot donate bread to the town, till I am over 50 days old. Sorry.
SECOND and its a big one.
Flour costs: 85
Wood: 60
Total of making one batch of bread: 1 silver 45 bronze
Making bread you can make 3,4 or 5 per batch.
Sell price for each bread: 25 bronze
Soo that means
3 bread: 75 bronze
4 bread: 1 silver
5 bread: 1 silver 25 bronze.
I'm probably going to only lose 15 bronze now, when I sell the remaining 3 flour back to town
First of all as a newbie, It seems I cannot donate bread to the town, till I am over 50 days old. Sorry.
SECOND and its a big one.
Flour costs: 85
Wood: 60
Total of making one batch of bread: 1 silver 45 bronze
Making bread you can make 3,4 or 5 per batch.
Sell price for each bread: 25 bronze
Soo that means
3 bread: 75 bronze
4 bread: 1 silver
5 bread: 1 silver 25 bronze.
I'm probably going to only lose 15 bronze now, when I sell the remaining 3 flour back to town
Last edited by Airy on Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:41 pm; edited 1 time in total
Guest- Guest
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Very careful and precise (and frustrating sometimes) work. I got some more raw pictures, but Ill have to work them in later. As more parts are added, there will be small mistakes slipping in as that's pretty unavoidable, but I hope to make that not too noticeable. (You will see the map is not exactly right if you check it with your ingame map and place the two over each other, but my hope is that will be the only way to tell)
Guest- Guest
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Airy wrote:HUffs.
First of all as a newbie, It seems I cannot donate bread to the town, till I am over 50 days old. Sorry.
SECOND and its a big one.
Flour costs: 85
Wood: 60
Total of making one batch of bread: 1 silver 45 bronze
Making bread you can make 3,4 or 5 per batch.
Sell price for each bread: 25 bronze
Soo that means
3 bread: 75 bronze
4 bread: 1 silver
5 bread: 1 silver 25 bronze.
I'm probably going to only lose 15 bronze now, when I sell the remaining 3 flour back to town
yes, crunching numbers right now it doesnt add up really.
what i am hoping to do, is to improve the town level of wheat fields to increase the output per field for all wheat farms. this should counter balance the prices, driving the cost of wheat and flour down, which will drive down bread. our cost of wood is directly linked, but until we can fix the first side of the spectrum there is not much else to do.
ill be keeping records of harvests here. if you have a wheat field, can you please post here how many wheat you are harvesting each cycle and your farming skill please
arcanejill harvested 22 wheat with 11 farming skill today
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22 wheat = 8 silver cost of hiring for cycles (3 silver ploughing, 2.50 other 2 cycles) = 36 bronze per bag of wheat.
22 wheat = 11 flour = 8.80 sold to town not counting stamina, need to check how much stamina it costs vs. ratio compared to skill.
11 flour + 22 wood = 33-55 bread (10 stamina for every 3-5 bread at 0 skill) = 110 stamina at 0
44 bread average per wheat cycle - cost of 22 wood
22 wheat = 11 flour = 8.80 sold to town not counting stamina, need to check how much stamina it costs vs. ratio compared to skill.
11 flour + 22 wood = 33-55 bread (10 stamina for every 3-5 bread at 0 skill) = 110 stamina at 0
44 bread average per wheat cycle - cost of 22 wood
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Eh, I just switched to wheat, and my farming skill is 2 Im sure I can be a guinea pig, wish others would step up more too though. -_-
Guest- Guest
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I'll change my field after a business trip to Camaar I guess I could start farming...
Axel Ackland- Seeker
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Yeah, I harvested my Veggie Field and got 10 Veggies. With current wages, that nets me around 1,5 silver loss on my field. The prices aren't very friendly for low-skilled workers at least I can't keep my field running if it doesn't turn a profit.
Guest- Guest
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Seems to be almost like a gap between the rich and poor. Personally with feilds, I wouldnt buy one for a long time as a newbie. Havent done the calculations yet. But buying, working myself, neither seems a good enough option.
Guest- Guest
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well, fields dont cost anything afaik to purchase
just cost a lot to run them. i dont think i've ever made money off my field yet lol
just cost a lot to run them. i dont think i've ever made money off my field yet lol
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It costs 100 stamina. And there's not really any point in having a field if it costs you money.
Guest- Guest
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idk, even with 0 skill you can probably work 3 units a day. the trade off begins when its cheaper to buy the wheat (import/ect) then it is to grow it yourself. hoping with an upgrade, the fields become more profitable for all.
all the same, no wheat, no bread, no free food at bistro
all the same, no wheat, no bread, no free food at bistro
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Lord Arogandor has informed me that he has changed the production on wheat fields. Base used to be 20-30 and is now 14-20.
This means both wheat and consequently bread prices are being raised I am sorry, but I can't ask everyone to take a loss just to keep bread in the bistro. As always, feel free to mail me with any questions.
This means both wheat and consequently bread prices are being raised I am sorry, but I can't ask everyone to take a loss just to keep bread in the bistro. As always, feel free to mail me with any questions.
ArcaneJill- Seeker
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Registration date : 2009-11-16
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Wheat is 43B
Flour is 91B
Bread is 37B
To keep prices as low as possible, the town is making no profit on any of these (buy and sell prices are the same).
Honestly, these prices are probably not high enough. I calculated them assuming that a stamina was worth 0.5B and that the worker had no skill... but people usually hire for higher. I'm trying to keep it as low as possible though.
Flour is 91B
Bread is 37B
To keep prices as low as possible, the town is making no profit on any of these (buy and sell prices are the same).
Honestly, these prices are probably not high enough. I calculated them assuming that a stamina was worth 0.5B and that the worker had no skill... but people usually hire for higher. I'm trying to keep it as low as possible though.
ArcaneJill- Seeker
- Number of posts : 101
Registration date : 2009-11-16
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Someone with only 4% in the farming skill being used still takes 40 stamina to do a unit, so thats two units a day maximum. 15 days if you do all the work yourself, and 6 days for the field to grow could mean a 21 day growing cycle. I got a crop of corn, there will be pig eventually, and paid more like 30 bronze for 40 stamina so I guess everyone loses money making food, lol. Maybe there are 3 people in Spero that it is actually profitable for? Two?
Guest- Guest
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If you guys want the help to facilitate relations between the towns i can make about 100 bread per day with 22 wood and 11 flour i just need to save up the money for now to be able to buy the needed stuff. (i have the highest bread making in the game)
or i could bring some from caamar we have a little under 1000 bread at the moment.
or i could bring some from caamar we have a little under 1000 bread at the moment.
Guest- Guest
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I could bring bread back with me from my trip, but I'd need to make sure the cost is the same as the pay, can't afford to lose money like last time
Axel Ackland- Seeker
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