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Post by anto_capone Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:59 pm

Baking Breads will cost you 10 stamina,
1 bag of Flour and 2 Wood.

1 flour = 2 wheat.

I'm still waiting for my field harvest to see what the output of wheat is, but the basics of this all would be to produce cheap food for new arrivals (bread donated there so new people can eat for free).

Also, this will tie into other needs and events. Soon I would like to sponsor an expedition to the iron mine, it is pretty far away for us. Also, we would like to begin mapping out the entire realm, and sponsor those who search for the Grail! Smile

I'd like to thank Axel and Jill for their kind and generous donations that help new arrivals. Awesomeness is appreciated!


Now, for starters, would like to know if anyone in our town has a high milling and baking skill, and what fair wages would be to work for the town. Smile
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:23 am

/slightly offtopic

I'd be very interested in mapping out our entire Realm. I'll start working on that a bit already Smile

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Post by Axel Ackland Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:33 pm

Don't worry about mining expeditions I've got the iron bars covered. Razz So don't worry bout that. I'll start sellin em in about a week when I come back to town.

As for the map, I have everything that does anything in my new map in the FAQ, except the magical orb which does nothing yet.

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Post by anto_capone Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:30 pm

Awesome to hear about the iron bars, we'll need em for sure!

Marche, it would be great to map it all out, let me know how ya make out Smile
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Post by anto_capone Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:11 pm

awesome! watch out for them bears!

we can now hire mercenaries so that will help out im sure Smile
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Post by Guest Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:17 pm

Yeah The Grail Guard is great. The Brute will probably be more of an exception with his high hiring cost Smile

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Post by Guest Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:18 am

HUffs.

First of all as a newbie, It seems I cannot donate bread to the town, till I am over 50 days old. Sorry.

SECOND and its a big one.

Flour costs: 85
Wood: 60
Total of making one batch of bread: 1 silver 45 bronze

Making bread you can make 3,4 or 5 per batch.
Sell price for each bread: 25 bronze

Soo that means
3 bread: 75 bronze
4 bread: 1 silver
5 bread: 1 silver 25 bronze.

Evil or Very Mad

I'm probably going to only lose 15 bronze now, when I sell the remaining 3 flour back to town Wink


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Post by Guest Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:08 pm

Very careful and precise (and frustrating sometimes) work. I got some more raw pictures, but Ill have to work them in later. As more parts are added, there will be small mistakes slipping in as that's pretty unavoidable, but I hope to make that not too noticeable. (You will see the map is not exactly right if you check it with your ingame map and place the two over each other, but my hope is that will be the only way to tell)

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Post by anto_capone Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:40 am

Airy wrote:HUffs.

First of all as a newbie, It seems I cannot donate bread to the town, till I am over 50 days old. Sorry.

SECOND and its a big one.

Flour costs: 85
Wood: 60
Total of making one batch of bread: 1 silver 45 bronze

Making bread you can make 3,4 or 5 per batch.
Sell price for each bread: 25 bronze

Soo that means
3 bread: 75 bronze
4 bread: 1 silver
5 bread: 1 silver 25 bronze.

Evil or Very Mad

I'm probably going to only lose 15 bronze now, when I sell the remaining 3 flour back to town Wink

yes, crunching numbers right now it doesnt add up really.

what i am hoping to do, is to improve the town level of wheat fields to increase the output per field for all wheat farms. this should counter balance the prices, driving the cost of wheat and flour down, which will drive down bread. our cost of wood is directly linked, but until we can fix the first side of the spectrum there is not much else to do.

ill be keeping records of harvests here. if you have a wheat field, can you please post here how many wheat you are harvesting each cycle and your farming skill please

arcanejill harvested 22 wheat with 11 farming skill today
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Post by anto_capone Wed Oct 20, 2010 8:00 am

22 wheat = 8 silver cost of hiring for cycles (3 silver ploughing, 2.50 other 2 cycles) = 36 bronze per bag of wheat.

22 wheat = 11 flour = 8.80 sold to town not counting stamina, need to check how much stamina it costs vs. ratio compared to skill.

11 flour + 22 wood = 33-55 bread (10 stamina for every 3-5 bread at 0 skill) = 110 stamina at 0

44 bread average per wheat cycle - cost of 22 wood
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Post by Guest Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:10 pm

Eh, I just switched to wheat, and my farming skill is 2 Wink Im sure I can be a guinea pig, wish others would step up more too though. -_-

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Post by Axel Ackland Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:47 pm

I'll change my field after a business trip to Camaar Razz I guess I could start farming...

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Post by anto_capone Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:07 pm

i also got 22 wheat with a 23 farming skill
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Post by Guest Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:26 pm

Yeah, I harvested my Veggie Field and got 10 Veggies. With current wages, that nets me around 1,5 silver loss on my field. The prices aren't very friendly for low-skilled workers at least Sad I can't keep my field running if it doesn't turn a profit.

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Post by Guest Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:40 am

Seems to be almost like a gap between the rich and poor. Personally with feilds, I wouldnt buy one for a long time as a newbie. Havent done the calculations yet. But buying, working myself, neither seems a good enough option.

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Post by anto_capone Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:01 pm

well, fields dont cost anything afaik to purchase

just cost a lot to run them. i dont think i've ever made money off my field yet lol
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Post by Guest Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:02 pm

It costs 100 stamina. And there's not really any point in having a field if it costs you money.

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Post by anto_capone Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:57 am

idk, even with 0 skill you can probably work 3 units a day. the trade off begins when its cheaper to buy the wheat (import/ect) then it is to grow it yourself. hoping with an upgrade, the fields become more profitable for all. Smile

all the same, no wheat, no bread, no free food at bistro Wink
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Post by ArcaneJill Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:11 am

Lord Arogandor has informed me that he has changed the production on wheat fields. Base used to be 20-30 and is now 14-20.

This means both wheat and consequently bread prices are being raised Sad I am sorry, but I can't ask everyone to take a loss just to keep bread in the bistro. As always, feel free to mail me with any questions.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:31 pm

What are the new buy and sell prices?

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Post by ArcaneJill Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:09 am

Wheat is 43B

Flour is 91B

Bread is 37B

To keep prices as low as possible, the town is making no profit on any of these (buy and sell prices are the same).

Honestly, these prices are probably not high enough. I calculated them assuming that a stamina was worth 0.5B and that the worker had no skill... but people usually hire for higher. I'm trying to keep it as low as possible though.
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Post by Guest Sun Nov 14, 2010 11:28 am

Someone with only 4% in the farming skill being used still takes 40 stamina to do a unit, so thats two units a day maximum. 15 days if you do all the work yourself, and 6 days for the field to grow could mean a 21 day growing cycle. I got a crop of corn, there will be pig eventually, and paid more like 30 bronze for 40 stamina so I guess everyone loses money making food, lol. Maybe there are 3 people in Spero that it is actually profitable for? Two?

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Post by Guest Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:46 pm

If you guys want the help to facilitate relations between the towns i can make about 100 bread per day with 22 wood and 11 flour i just need to save up the money for now to be able to buy the needed stuff. (i have the highest bread making in the game)

or i could bring some from caamar we have a little under 1000 bread at the moment.

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:40 am

Wow thats nice of you Kidak Smile (but I cant say yay or nay Razz)

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Post by Axel Ackland Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:10 pm

I could bring bread back with me from my trip, but I'd need to make sure the cost is the same as the pay, can't afford to lose money like last time Razz

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