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Queen Among Gooses

Post by Helfdane on Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:02 pm

~Queen among Gooses~
The Achievement Queen among Gooses has been removed. Seekers who got the achievement in the past, no longer have the Achievement or the 50 points from it. The only exception is Seeker Malan who earned the Achievement before you could give up the game.


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I assume there was an exploit involving giving up the game before 7 turns. It's great you closed that. However, I, and I'm sure many other Seekers, legitimately won that achievement. Now, it's striped away, simply because we didn't achieve it as fast as Malan did? 

So one Seeker has an achievement in this game that NOBODY else will ever be able to achieve?  

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Re: Queen Among Gooses

Post by Cpt_Coot on Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:26 pm

This also seems weird to me.  I'm doubting entirely that Malan was the only one to get this achievement, since I'm only 2 years old and I remember the addition of giving up.  To be honest, I thought I had gotten that one too, but can't check now lol.

I entirely agree with Helfdane.  Lots of people never give up. Taking away the achievement for everyone except one seems to be a lot less simple of a fix than maybe awarding something to the one player you want to single out.   250 bads do not come close to equaling one good.  What a bummer thing to log in to.  EVERYONE LOSES 50 POINTS! In the announcements.

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Re: Queen Among Gooses

Post by Lord Arogandor on Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:53 am

The achievement will be re-added in time. So Seeker Malan will not have exclusive rights over that achievement. The chance to get this achievement was 1 out of 46656, so I based myself on the 46655 chances that Seekers gained it by giving up the game. Sadly there's no way to be sure.

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Re: Queen Among Gooses

Post by Helfdane on Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:16 am

It's good that it will be re-added. Now I can get a 7 turn Goose Game again to prove I didn't exploit...

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Re: Queen Among Gooses

Post by robert on Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:48 am

I agree, I had also gotten this through luck and it took around 400 goose games, so it's kind of going to be a pain to get that lucky again, looking at those odds...
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Re: Queen Among Gooses

Post by Lord Arogandor on Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:49 pm

I understand this must be frustrating so I had a look at the games and can agree that it's possible few people earned the achievement in a legal way, simply by playing many times and got lucky.

So Seekers who had the achievement and had more then 500 games played can get their achievement back. That said, I'm going to lower the points gained for this achievement. As the score value is very high compared with other achievements that can be earned.

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Re: Queen Among Gooses

Post by Cpt_Coot on Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:01 pm

Lord Arogandor wrote:The achievement will be re-added in time. So Seeker Malan will not have exclusive rights over that achievement. The chance to get this achievement was 1 out of 46656, so I based myself on the 46655 chances that Seekers gained it by giving up the game. Sadly there's no way to be sure.
I'm not sure your figures are correct.  I've accomplished this more than once I know of, and have never given up unless I fall in the pit or am over 20 turns.  Are you accounting for the taverns and market giving you free turns?  Are you accounting for rerolls?

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