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Post by Aaron Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:22 pm

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See anything weird? I only got 3 poultry from a 15 days old chicken. This is the first time I've noticed this, usually I get 4, as it should be. The only difference I can think of is that usually I feed all the animals first and then collect/slaughter. This time I didn't feed it first, maybe that somehow caused this bug to surface. :/
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Post by Lord Arogandor Sun Mar 06, 2016 5:56 am

I will have to see what happend Aaron. Thanks for reporting.
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Post by Lord Arogandor Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:47 am

The amount of Poultry gained from Chickens:


1 poultry for each 5 days the chicken was alive, rounded up. With a maximum of 6 poultry.
So a 15 days old chicken does give you 3 poultry, while a 16 days old chicken would give you 4 poultry. Feeding the chicken does not influence the amount you gained.
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Post by Aaron Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:31 pm

So you're saying that the real bug was that until now, slaughtering on day 15 has always granted 4 poultry, ever since the last change in the chicken egg and poultry gains? And now that bug has mysteriously fixed itself?

Also, I'm not happy with the fact that this once again decreases the poultry production, which has always lagged behind all other productions. The last change fixed the issue of egg overproduction, but made only a minimal improvement on the underproduction of poultry.

In any field, you can produce approximately 30 in ~12 days. Pigs and fishing, with potions, can produce far faster than that. Eggs, with the current production rate, 8 per chicken in 12 days - with 3 chickens, it makes 24, with 5 (which is what I currently have) it's 40.

In comparison, 3 chickens produce 9 in 11 days or 12 in 16 days. 5 produce 15 in 11 days or 20 in 16 days. The production rate is about half of that of a single field, with two ranch upgrades.

I'm not saying chickens are economically unviable, just that there is a distinct imbalance in the production rates, which results in a relative shortage on poultry across the game world. I can only imagine the pain of someone who decides to make Agility their main stat... *shudders*
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Post by Mena32 Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:06 am

you can also do hunting for a fair amount of poultry or huck stones at people like dracs doing!

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Post by Lord Arogandor Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:43 pm

There is/was no bug.
Only an update few months ago, which was announced. So nothing sneaky or mysterious.
The reason for that update was that many people bought chickens to slaughter them right away for the poultry. To avoid this from happening chickens now produce more poultry the older they get.
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Post by Aaron Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:50 pm

You're not reading. I already told you that since that update I've always got 4 poultry from slaughtering on day 15. Until now. Now it suddenly requires 16 days (if what you say is right - I'll test that tomorrow, when my next chicken is 16 days old). Something has changed.
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Post by Lord Arogandor Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:50 am

It always is possible something changes, but in this case I really wouldn't know how that happened. I promise you I didn't change a thing at the ranch since that update.
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Post by Aaron Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:09 pm

Ok, the chicken changed into "midlife" and gave me 4 poultry on the 16th day. I'm just curious, how this happened. I've slaughtered dozens of chickens since the update, on day 15 after collecting the eggs, and I've always got 4 poultry.

Now the numbers don't match anymore, I guess I'll start slaughtering on day 21...

But I still think that something needs to be done about the poultry underproduction.
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Post by AxineeHearth Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:11 pm

I also noticed this change. I got 7 poultry from the first chicken I slaughtered (30 days), but last time I slaughtered, I only got 6 poultry. So there's no use having the chicken after day 26. I tried having a chicken until day 31, but it died..

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Post by Lord Arogandor Sat Mar 19, 2016 4:04 pm

I will have to check this (again). This change, when you think it happened? Like months ago or very recently? Like a one or 2 week ago or even a couple of days ago?
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Post by Aaron Sat Mar 19, 2016 10:21 pm

Check the date when I started this topic. It can't have been much earlier than that, because I slaughter chickens quite frequently. It's possible I grew some pigs before that batch of chickens, but it takes less than 20 days with a potions, so... I'd say it happened a maximum of 1 month before I started the topic.
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Post by Aaron Thu May 05, 2016 2:54 am

Any update on this matter?
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Post by Lord Arogandor Thu May 05, 2016 5:44 am

Slaughtering a Chicken between 1 and 5 days old should give 1 Poultry.
Slaughtering a Chicken between 6 and 10 days old should give 2 Poultry.
Slaughtering a Chicken between 11 and 15 days old should give 3 Poultry.
Slaughtering a Chicken between 16 and 20 days old should give 4 Poultry.
Slaughtering a Chicken between 21 and 25 days old should give 5 Poultry.
Slaughtering a Chicken between 26 and 30 days old should give 6 Poultry.
Slaughtering a Chicken older then 30 days should give you 6 Poultry.

The last update concerning Chickens dates from 23 November 2015.

If it was any different in the past then I'm sorry but I can't find why or how it happened.
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Post by Aaron Thu May 05, 2016 6:24 am

Originally, slaughtering on day 5 gave you 2 poultry, day 10 gave you 3, day 15 gave you 4 - that's where I used to slaughter mine, it was optimised with egg collection, which happes on days 3,6,9,12 and 15.

Lord Arogandor wrote:After many days experimenting with Chickens we came to the following proposal:


- Egghunt only once in 3 days instead of once in 2 days (which will lower the egg mountain).
- 1 poultry + 1 extra poultry for each 5 days the chicken is alive (gives 7 poultry on max age).
- The chickens will have different stages (like pigs) to indicate it's life cycle.


Today: Chickens produce 30 eggs and 3 poultry.
Update: Chickens produce 20 eggs and 7 poultry.

As it is now, getting 7 poultry is impossible. I don't know how it happened, but there has been a change, and while I don't particularly care if you keep the current state or revert it back to how it used to be, you should make an announcement about it if you plan to keep it in its current state. I see that the Wiki page already reflects the current state, so no need to change that.

BTW, I still think that the poultry production needs a large boost. I don't see the logic by which it should lag so much behind every other food type (save mushrooms, which still can't be produced). One way to do it would be to make it so that each ranch slot accommodates 2 chickens, doubling the poultry production, but with each chicken only producing 1 egg per 3 days, keeping the egg production the same as right now.
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Post by Lord Arogandor Mon May 09, 2016 5:20 pm

The announcement might been on the home events (which are not kept). Usually the smaller updates are posted there. I will do more effort to post all updates on the forum so that we always can go back in time.

I removed the restriction of having maximum 6 Poultry. So in theory you can have 7 or more poultry from one Chicken. Accommodating 2 chickens on one Ranch slot will require a lot of changing and according to the game stats, Poultry lays pretty much in the middle.

I will not change the poultry production anytime soon.
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